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Post by Shade on Aug 22, 2008 10:33:05 GMT -5
Shade considered his suggestion for a moment, wondering whether this group was just something that had come to his mind but dismissed that interpretation immidiately. She didn´t know him well, but she had figured out by now that Pietro seldomly said anything beyond the line of being relevant, so she guessed he had personal connection to the Roma in the one or other way. "A minority, that one." Shade nodded, thinking that it was in fact strange that the curriculum as it was now still focussed on the main strands of what was called civilisation. It wasn´t true to reality, not with a new minority rising within their midst and the students being part of that minority. Teaching mutant kids about mainstream only was the same as teaching kids in African colonies about British history only. "as far as I can tell they didn´t show until the Middle Ages but it could be an interesting excursion."
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 22, 2008 10:42:25 GMT -5
"They were in the Middle East in the 400s A.D., before Rome fell," ::Pietro knew that from his own lessons in the subject. Their origins went back further, but that intermixed with Ancient cultures of an entirely separate continent. He didn't mention the blame in the bible, as he had little respect for most biblical stories; too much political-pressure obscured facts.::
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Post by Shade on Aug 22, 2008 10:49:49 GMT -5
That was a different matter entirely, Shade thought. She hated having to legitimate things she did in her lesson to the curriculum and loopholes around that were always an option. 400 AD still matched antiquity pretty well. She put back her head to give him a look and a scowl. No annoyed one, merely what she could muster interested with him. "You´re interested in Roma history?" she asked.
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 22, 2008 10:52:18 GMT -5
"Yes," ::It was one of the few areas where Pietro readily admitted interest. His muscles were beginning to ache from holding the position, and he dropped to the ground. It would be better to allow them to have a conversation, which they were doing, whether or not they cared for one another's company.::
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Post by Shade on Aug 22, 2008 10:58:38 GMT -5
"I can see why." Shade said, those words being the first that came to her mind, not meant offensive but being a mere observation. For a mutant, it was easy to relate to a people that had been outcast and percecuted for long passages of its history until far into the 20th century when many had been transported to he camps along with Jews, Polish and political enemies of the Nazi regime. It was a mental connection that became all the more obvious on yet another level when he jumped down, since she knew Magneto had been in a camp. And even though Shade showed no sign of it, she could clearly see part of his father in his face. She knew Pietro hated to be put into association with Magneto, but the hair and some of the facial features ... one could clearly tell who he was.
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 22, 2008 11:09:50 GMT -5
::Pietro had fine balance and landed on his feet; his bones absorbed the shock easily. Her comment caused him to tilt his head slightly, briefly, before straightening. His interest was hardly as intellectual as she was giving him credit; it was studying one's cultural heritage to him, and yes, lessons could be learned, and that was why he recommended it. But personal connection spawned it initially. He came from two of the most persecuted groups on the planet; as a mutant, he came from a third. Yet, it was not common knowledge, or so he thought. His words were not intended as a challenge, but he did seek deeper explanation.:: "Can you?"
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Post by Shade on Aug 22, 2008 11:16:30 GMT -5
"Being able to relate to something is often what causes interest." Shade explained with a shrug. She couldn´t read much from his reaction, but wondered if he was just interested in her reply or whether he wondered what she knew about him to come to such a conclusion. "The Roma are a minority, so are mutants. They know about percecution and hatred, so do ... we." Even though it was maybe a childish thought, but it was strange to talk in a way where a we spoke for both of them. There wasn´t any way where she could relate to Pietro, still there was the connection of both of them being mutants.
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 22, 2008 11:19:59 GMT -5
::Pietro nodded slightly, as though in approval of the statement. He could accept it, at the very least.:: "Their culture is similar to how it is here."
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Post by Shade on Aug 22, 2008 11:24:19 GMT -5
Shade nodded, stretching her legs to ease the weight of the laptop a little. "I have to admit that´s a topic I´d have to put some more reasearch into before taking it to class. For me it´s always rather been Native American cultures besides all the rest that I found interesting." Which had been percecuted nations as well and which were today a minority, but she guessed with the careless childhood she had had, the interest she had developed in that area rather rooted in a childlike fascination of the unknown, fuelled by child games of cowboys and Indians.
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 22, 2008 11:36:48 GMT -5
"There are books, but they miss facts," ::The Roma and their subgroups, which included the Sinti, were distrustful of outsiders, which led to a great deal of their history remaining private. Much was passed in the oral tradition. To her other comment, he shrugged; it was not disinterest, but he had little to contribute; he had only done the mandatory Native American studies.:: "They have their persecuted heritage also, but sovereignty here."
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Post by Shade on Aug 22, 2008 19:01:05 GMT -5
"Books are never truly objective." Shade said. "history as a whole never is and never can be." It was a comment on what he had said first whereas she replied to his notion about the First Nations with a nod. There was a quote matching with it. She couldn´t recall by whom but it said that history was always a history of the victors.
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 24, 2008 8:26:17 GMT -5
::Magneto had told Pietro and his sister that several times; he preferred not to dwell upon it, particularly as it was a true statement. He nodded slightly to agree with her.:: "Oral history is a good substitute."
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Post by Shade on Aug 24, 2008 8:32:12 GMT -5
"It is." Shade agreed, starting to wonder whether his sudden display of interest stemmed from personal experience or rather an attempt to keep a conversation running between them. She partly excluded the latter since she had seen him just fall silent with her before if he didn´t want to talk and she had not had a problem in treating him likewise either.
"Even though, oral history can be selective and subjective just as any other source." Her historical knowledge was not perfect in every area, but she had studied the subject and its theoretic approaches, therefore knowing that time could blur memory for the better or the worse. It would be naive to dismiss that thought.
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Post by Pietro Maximoff on Aug 24, 2008 8:41:31 GMT -5
::It was a valid point, but Pietro had a certain amount of, not faith but trust, in conveying stories orally. Peculiar, considering how difficult verbal communication could be for him, particularly when impassioned.:: "The important points remain."
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Post by Shade on Aug 24, 2008 8:47:32 GMT -5
"Yeah." Shade replied. Of course he wouldn´t give her the satisfaction of backing out of his argumentation as she noticed with an ever so slight inner eyeroll. She could be civil with him and right now had no problem in being so, still he would usually somehow manage to keep her in a mood that never made her relax around him in the way she did around other people she knew. She would most likely always stay wary around him, even though she could not completely pinpoint the reason. Most likely it was a multitude of reasons. She did not feel up for mentally counting them off.
Something in her book caught her eye and she took a piece of paper from her pocket to shove it between the pages so she could find the page again at a later point before she looked back up at Pietro. "You look better than last time." she noticed, finding no reasonable way to continue from what he had said. There was no mock or whatever in her voice, it was merely stating a fact.
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